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#1 User is offline   ChrisN 

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 02:09 AM

Hi there. Nice forum and so cool to have one dedicated to people like me :). Yep, I've finally made the jump to ASPR (9.6 Enterprise) from ISD and am feeling a little like a fish out of water. MVC is so different to WebForms :( .

A few things have me scratching my head, but I'm mostly navigating my way with the help of the forums and the manual. Events are an interesting animal compared to ISD and so is the visual editor. I'm getting the hang of laying out Add/Edit pages, but I haven't mastered the art (in list view) of moving columns and inserting fields & labels. I guess the ISD spreadsheet approach was pretty efficient. Has anyone got any relevant tips to help ease the way for an old ISD refugee?

Thanks in advance. I hope that I can contribute when I'm no longer the new kid in town.

Chris
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Posted 22 January 2017 - 06:24 PM

Welcome. You made a great choice. The best advice I can give is; stop thinking the ISD way.

I used ASPRunner before moving to ISD. It took me a while to understand the ISD way of doing things. Once I got it, I would develop in that mind set.

Now I am back using ASPRunner.Net and had to re-adjust my thinking.

Before you spend too much time in the visual editor, learn all about the events and how to use them. The only time I typically mess with the visual editor is when I want to add a custom button or code snippet. We were so used to doing all our work on the visual editor in ISD, I can understand that is where you want to be. But, it really isn't.
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#3 User is offline   ChrisN 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:21 AM

View Postjadach, on 23 January 2017 - 04:24 AM, said:

Welcome. You made a great choice. The best advice I can give is; stop thinking the ISD way.

I used ASPRunner before moving to ISD. It took me a while to understand the ISD way of doing things. Once I got it, I would develop in that mind set.

Now I am back using ASPRunner.Net and had to re-adjust my thinking.

Before you spend too much time in the visual editor, learn all about the events and how to use them. The only time I typically mess with the visual editor is when I want to add a custom button or code snippet. We were so used to doing all our work on the visual editor in ISD, I can understand that is where you want to be. But, it really isn't.



Thanks for the advice Jerry. I'll try to keep it in mind :)

Chris
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#4 User is offline   Pete K 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 08:29 PM

Welcome, Chris! Great to have another ISD veteran around. I've not been very active on the forum lately but I'll try to start visiting more.

One thing in particular I would direct your attention to (although you've probably already figured this out) is that you can show/hide fields, change their order, and adjust many other properties using the query, pages, fields, and totals sections, without ever touching the editor. Unlike ISD, ASPR.net is designed with the idea that pages get rebuilt continuously (although you can lock them so they don't). But if you get used to working this way, you gain the ability to instantly make major changes to the data that gets displayed on the page without ever directly editing it. Now that I'm used to this, I hate going back to the ISD way for legacy apps.

Cheers!







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#5 User is offline   ChrisN 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome, Pete. Moving into a new development environment is a big deal, so having this forum is a great help. The learning curve doesn't seem so daunting now!

Cheers,

Chris
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