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#1 User is offline   admin 

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 03:48 AM

PHPRunner 5.3/ASPRunnerPro 6.3

PHPRunner 5.3/ASPRunnerPro 6.3 is planned as a relatively small update to be released in June-July 2010. Here is the list of the most interesting features planned in this update.

Planned features
  • Folding sections/tabs on View/Edit/Add pages.
  • ASPRunnerPro/PHPRunner will be translated to several languages (haven't yet decided which ones to start with first)
  • More flexible search settings. Each field can be marked as search panel, advanced search, Google like search, quick search.
  • Allow 'Records per page' dropdown customization
  • Drill-down option for charts. Click on chart element to proceed to another chart or to underlying data.
  • Events editor enhancements like search across all events
  • New events (onerror - write your own error messages, Audit events, Edit/View page events that allow access to values to be displayed on the page)
  • New 'View as' types MP3 and Video


'Maybe' features
Time permitting we will fit them into ASPRunnerPro 6.3/PHPRunner 5.3. Otherwise they will be included in ASPRunnerPro 7/PHPRunner 6 release.
  • rebuild modified files only (quick rebuild vs full rebuild). Will be extremely useful for large projects.
  • field level events (Add/Edit/Register pages)
  • lookup wizard enhancements (use custom views as lookup wizard source, allow to fill multiple fields with values from lookup table, option to create a new lookup table and fill it with values)


PHPRunner 6.0/ASPRunnerPro 7.0

Planned to to be released in 2010.

The main feature is Style Editor where you can customize every visual aspect of your applications: buttons, grids, pagination, colors, fonts etc. The idea is to fully separate HTML from CSS making all visual elements customizable. You will be able to create your own color schemas and share them with other users.

Other enhancements include Visual Editor update. We'll be updating this list constantly.
Best regards,
Sergey Kornilov
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 09:29 PM

My favorite ones planned for these upgrade as as follows (but of course all of them are great... the more the better):


Folding sections/tabs on View/Edit/Add pages. :D

New events (onerror - write your own error messages, Audit events, Edit/View page events that allow access to values to be displayed on the page) :D

New 'View as' types MP3 and Video :D

rebuild modified files only (quick rebuild vs full rebuild). Will be extremely useful for large projects. :D

field level events (Add/Edit/Register pages) :D

ookup wizard enhancements (use custom views as lookup wizard source, allow to fill multiple fields with values from lookup table, option to create a new lookup table and fill it with values) :D

The main feature is Style Editor where you can customize every visual aspect of your applications: buttons, grids, pagination, colors, fonts etc. The idea is to fully separate HTML from CSS making all visual elements customizable. You will be able to create your own color schemas and share them with other users. :D :D :D


AND... it would be really great if you could add functionality for us to add hover "tooltips" on form fields to help better explain to end-users what the field is for, etc. I notced quite a few folks have asked for this functionality. I know it is simple to implement as a developer (although I am a newbie and haven't done it yet) but seems like a tedious task to have to manually add this to each field that needs more detailed explanations. - Just a thought.

Thanks and keep up the good work... one of the reasons I went with you guys is because you are constantly adding features and updates throughout the year instead of waiting for year long releases. Oh, and as far as languages go I think Brazilian Portuguese might be a good idea given the fact Brazil has a large population and is a fast, up-and-coming emerging economy... lots of programmers there. A few Google Ad words may help sell in that part of the world. And yes, as a disclaimer, I am Brazilian/American.

Best,

M
Marcelo Ramagem

- Don't second guess your customer, instead listen, iterate, and deliver!
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#3 User is offline   hich 

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 10:05 PM

Foldable tabs and sections is great and also drill down charts is perfect!

Is it possible to save all the of the config parameters for the charts into a table so that users can change these without having to rebuild the project?

I would love to see some of the UI features available here: jquery
I like ASPR a lot and have many tables with a large number of fields, so a column chooser would be great.
Also great if each user could move the columns around and swap positions as they like.
This would get every user of any ASPR application to like it.

Many thanks Sergey to you and your team
You keep exceeding our expectations so thank you for all your efforts!

Hich
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 12:21 AM

Any plans for asprunner.net? I would love to see this come up close to the features of asprunner.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 12:41 AM

View Postf-b, on 30 April 2010 - 12:21 AM, said:

Any plans for asprunner.net? I would love to see this come up close to the features of asprunner.


A great feature would be to have an option not to upload dbcommon.

Thanks
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#6 User is offline   muscleda 

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 01:34 AM

Two suggestions:

1) zip code proximity search capability

2) option to create RSS feeds so that data is SEO
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#7 User is offline   adamrw 

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:29 AM

I hope that migrating project from PHPRunner 5.2 to 5.3 will be not time-consuming as from 5.1 to 5.2. I have spent a lot of time, because many parts of my project, e.g. calendar template , I have had to prepare all my changes from scratch. If you are using calendar template and make no changes to it, it is no problem. But if you alter a lot, it is a very big problem to do it every time PHPRunner changes version.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:38 AM

Hi there,

Great new plans for the future version.
One thing I'd like to see also is a page template without a list/report/chart etc. but some placeholders to use for my own code.
Right now I 'abuse' the report template for this, but I have to delete paging, search fields etc. since I don't need this. When a 'reset page' is required, I loose all these changes.
This should be easy to do I think.

Thanks,

Bert
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:47 AM

Hi,

All very good suggestions.

Making something with PHPrunner I always want to make it special. Special in layout or color. That asks a lot of time changing the layout en style files.

Some additions at the misc page could help greatly.

The subjects are just suggestions. Items can be added or removed.


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#10 User is offline   mark elkington 

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 08:29 AM

Hi Sergey

I have been using PHPRunner for 4 years now - it is a great product, and as it has got better over the years we have been able to use it for larger and more critical projects. However we are now getting seriously concerned about the long term TOC - migrating large applications when you need to incorporate lots of detailed changes + some visual editor changes is a major undertaking - I'm more than 5 weeks in on migrating an application involving 70 tables and >1500 files. We certainly could not undertake another migration like the one we are currently doing for 5.1 to 5.2 - and we paid attention to migration in our development at 5.1 by minimising all visual editor changes.

I think if you could give some more thought to migration issues, the product would be capable of moving to larger application developments.

I note other users have had problems with this.

Mark

P.S thanks for reintroducing the flexibility with the search parameters at 6.3 - I can drop the customisation I'm doing to get round the flexibility we lost with 5.2
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 12:51 PM

Hello Sergey,

Folding sections/tabs on View/Edit/Add pages is the most important feature for me, because of so many input fields
in add/edit this organisation will help my customers.

Please remeber the feature : help-text for a field as hint.

And I hope 5.3 will recognize my changed layouts in 5.2 without destroying them.
Because of clear BEGIN and END Structur in HTML in 5.2 it should be possible for you, to save my work .


Best regards
Uwe Pfeiffer
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 04:33 PM

This all sounds great. Thanks for all the updates. I guess I would also echo the comments about making sure to mitigate version migration issues for us.

One other feature I'd love: a "group by" function on the list page, then make those foldable as well. I first saw this on your Knowlege Base template (not the folding, but the grouping) and I use it often now, but it takes alot of hacking to get it to work.

Thanks for your great product!
Tim
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#13 User is offline   Athanasios Alekizoglou 

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 11:45 PM

Great plans.

Sergey we are planning to use PHPR on larger projects as well therefore you should take under consideration the following:

Editor's features, like search, search and replace, save editor's file with a hotkey ctrl+s. Now we are using an external editor (notepad++) to edit files.
Editor should be able to open included php files as well, not only the project's events. In a real project there are other files that we need to include.
Global search should be able to do a search in a directory.

The templates can get an update also. At least new buttons, and a more Web 2.0 look and fell. For the grid a field choise and custom group by feature could be a plus.
Best Regards,

Athanasios Alekizoglou
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 12:04 AM

While the Runner products provide an amazing amount of productivity and customizability, the biggest problem that we have using the product is that whenever changes to a particular project need to be made - particularly adding new fields, dropping old fields, or changing existing fields, the previous screen design degrades to such a point that it often needs to be entirely regenerated from scratch, which then necessitates re-applying all prior customizations. This problem has grown to be such a problem for us that we will be using the tool much less from this point forward until this issue is resolved.

Therefore, when you redesign the visual editor, please go beyond merely separating out the CSS from the HTML, and design a system that is much more resilient when changes to a database schema occur so that zero regeneration of the visual editor pages are necessary.

The one other thing that would be very attractive would be to add HTML5 / Silverlight RIA functionality, so that the "plain-jane" page appearance can be made to look much more modern and attractive than is now available.

Everything else about the Runner product line is great, but the visual editor needs so much work that it negates much of the rest of the system. PLEASE FIX IT!!!!
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 06:19 PM

My preferred order for PHPRunner, based on use, is this:

1. Style Editor
2. Folding sections/tab
3. ZIP code proximity
4. Chart improvements
5. than the rest


I used to love ASP (and Perl too). Now as I near retirement I embrace PHP.


P.S.
I am a newbie on this forum, but have been using ASPRunner since v.3
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